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    I just watched the full version of Strike Now and it featured one of my favorite Christine Characters-Miss Tate the secretary. Did anyone catch the part where she almost says the b word on a kids show! "the little b...girl wants more money" I couldn't believe it! that was one of the most extreme envelope pushing things I've seen eve on the show. No wonder Nick left that part out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugotslimed View Post
    I just watched the full version of Strike Now and it featured one of my favorite Christine Characters-Miss Tate the secretary. Did anyone catch the part where she almost says the b word on a kids show! "the little b...girl wants more money" I couldn't believe it! that was one of the most extreme envelope pushing things I've seen eve on the show. No wonder Nick left that part out.
    Where does the scene start?

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    In St. Patricks Day, I love when Bradfield asks what ignorance and apathy is, and Lance says "I don't know and I don't give a sh...care."
    Mark

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    I thought the character's name was Miss Take = Mistake. Sorta like Miss Fitz/Fit = Misfits/Misfit. But yeah, that was pushing it, wasn't it? The 1979 St. Patrick's Day ep too with the apathy question. lol

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    Or what about the "opposites" sketch in Popularity? They're motoring along with their list, Christine giving words and Lisa giving opposites, and then Christine brings out "shovel." Lisa starts out with "sh...," then stops herself short and exclaims "shovel?!" before saying "I don't know" and getting slimed. That's a great one, not least because it was so subtle that Nickelodeon seemingly missed it entirely.
    "Now me, I play for fortune
    And those velvet curtain calls
    I've got a black limousine and two gentlemen
    Escorting me to the halls
    And I'll play if you have the money
    Or if you're a friend to me
    But the one-man band
    By the quick-lunch stand
    He was playing real good
    For free..."
    -Joni Mitchell

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    Oh does anyone recall an ep where Christine was dressed as a mummy on the link set and as a joke she said something along the lines of if I date too young I could become a mummy? That's kind of a "woah" moment or Kevin running off to get married in an ep so he could "do it with girls". lol

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    It's an interesting point, as we talk about whether Nickelodeon got "older" or "younger." I suppose that a case can be made on both sides...but the network did pull these 1981 episodes (and Cosmetics) in part because it felt that there was too much of this kind of "sophisticated" talk in them. (In Cosmetics, Abby Hagyard, in one of her earliest appearances, hassles Lisa, in an opposite sketch, for not wearing any makeup, and tells her that all girls like to go out with the stuff "plastered all over your face like some tramp.")

    One aspect of all this that interests me is not so much the "older"/"younger" question as the fact that the very same man who directed these envelope-pushing scenes and episodes later banished them from Nickelodeon as that network's president. A little like Google today, it seems that Mr. Darby was of two minds about censorship, depending on whether he was on the "censored" or "censoring" side!
    "Now me, I play for fortune
    And those velvet curtain calls
    I've got a black limousine and two gentlemen
    Escorting me to the halls
    And I'll play if you have the money
    Or if you're a friend to me
    But the one-man band
    By the quick-lunch stand
    He was playing real good
    For free..."
    -Joni Mitchell

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    I wouldn't call the pulling of the 1981 episodes censorship.....I specifically asked Geoff Darby about these, and he clearly said that they were pulled because Nick only had a five year contract to run them (since they were originally produced for CJOH, not Nick), and that contract was up in 1987. He pointed out that when you already have over 100 episodes of a show in circulation, you don't need another one. So that certainly doesn't sound like censorship to me, and it makes perfect logical sense that they pulled them at that time (and didn't bother to renew the contract) WITHOUT regard for the shows' content. As for "Cosmetics", I still am not convinced that was censorship either. The fact is that after the mid-80s, the shows were shown seemingly randomly, with some episodes aired frequently, and some shown less frequently-it is my belief that with so many other shows to air, "Cosmetics" fell by the wayside. Of course, I have no evidence to back that up, but I think neither do the people who say it was pulled for its "mature" theme (though I may be wrong, I've been out of the loop for a long time, and you're welcome to challenge me on that-but last I heard, it was conjecture). And besides, as has been pointed out, if that WAS the case, why was "Addictions" still shown after 1987, since that is arguably an even more mature theme? (This is an issue that's been debated by fans as long as I've been around, and as far as I know it's not been proven either way...and perhaps it can't be proven either way, but this is my opinion). It doesn't compute in my book, but you can believe whatever you like....
    Last edited by LastoftheGypsies; May 20th, 2013 at 09:38 AM.
    "Without a song or dance, what are we? So I say 'Thank you for the music', for giving it to me...."

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    One thing I noticed while looking at the old TV listings was how many times those early episodes got played. I would imagine that by the time they retired the early episodes, one of the reasons was probably that for the first two years those eps were the only ones shown, over and over. Each time it made the rotation, it would play at least 3 times (twice on the weekday airing and once more over the weekend), so things like "Strike Now" were probably shown 40-50 times by the time they were removed, whereas the later ones didn't have to be rerun so much once there was a backlog of episodes.

    Plus, even now, the early episodes really do feel "early" - it's almost as if they're from a "third" era - obviously 1989/90 was a reboot, but I sort of feel like the show really became what it was in about 1983, with the early eps feeling a little more ragged and older-skewed. Sort of like how the first season of "Facts Of Life" doesn't really feel like the rest of the series.

    But I do recall that a few years back (was it a U-Pick or something?), they showed the first half of "Enemies and Paranoia" but switched to something else halfway through. Anybody know the details on that? Did nobody take a look at the episode before they put it on and freak out while it was airing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoingGreat View Post
    One thing I noticed while looking at the old TV listings was how many times those early episodes got played. I would imagine that by the time they retired the early episodes, one of the reasons was probably that for the first two years those eps were the only ones shown, over and over. Each time it made the rotation, it would play at least 3 times (twice on the weekday airing and once more over the weekend), so things like "Strike Now" were probably shown 40-50 times by the time they were removed, whereas the later ones didn't have to be rerun so much once there was a backlog of episodes.

    Plus, even now, the early episodes really do feel "early" - it's almost as if they're from a "third" era - obviously 1989/90 was a reboot, but I sort of feel like the show really became what it was in about 1983, with the early eps feeling a little more ragged and older-skewed. Sort of like how the first season of "Facts Of Life" doesn't really feel like the rest of the series.

    But I do recall that a few years back (was it a U-Pick or something?), they showed the first half of "Enemies and Paranoia" but switched to something else halfway through. Anybody know the details on that? Did nobody take a look at the episode before they put it on and freak out while it was airing?
    It was because they made references to Ronald Reagan I heard and it aired shortly after he died.

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